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Wednesday, 30 December 2009

UK LEGALITIES............

This is an open query to all those in SURROGACY WORLD......

Here it goes:

Same Sex Relationships are not recognized in Indian law; therefore in our situation the surrogacy agreement will be between one of us as a single male and the surrogate who so happens to be a widow. (This help with automatic citizenship for the newborn, as the surrogate has no husband, meaning that one of us will be deemed the biological father, therefore giving the baby right to British Citizenship). Under UK Law the Surrogate Mother is deemed the Legal Mother; however under Indian Law the Surrogate Mother is not deemed as the Legal Mother. As a result of the Indian Law, only the Fathers name will appear on the baby's birth certificate.

Question for anyone that has been this route before:

What would be the process for registering the child birth with the British High Commission and also making application for a British Passport if the surrogate mothers name is absent on the Indian birth certificate?

I know that the UK Law is changing on April 6th, 2010 which will then allow two male parents to be shown on a child's birth certificate, but in the meantime I am trying to see if anyone has info.

Thank you!!

Tuesday, 29 December 2009

Baby Boom 2010!

It really is great to keep reading of all the positive pregnancies. Wishing everyone the best of luck in 2010! In exactly 4 weeks time we too shall be having that all important embryo transfer! So we hope to share good news with everyone in early January!

Thursday, 24 December 2009

Happy Holidays!


The best Christmas of all is the presence of a happy family all wrapped up with one another.

Wednesday, 16 December 2009


Received an email today from Dr. Sudhir saying BAD NEWS.......

It appears that the Egg Donor that we have chosen has disappeared! Maybe she changed her mind, got scared or whatever else. We are glad, that she did this in the initial stages rather than have started the process and not shown when egg retrieval day came. So we had to go back and select another ed and this time opted for the DIVA DONOR (Egg Donors who are more of a premium due to higher levels of education & employment).

So with the new egg donor selected it looks like the trip to Mumbai will take place in the latter part of January for Egg Retrieval, Sperm Donation, Embryo Creation & Transfer. Yipeeeeeee!

Flights are relatively cheap on in-direct routes, but we'll explore the options over Xmas. Hopefully BA will need to have a seat-sale to recover customer loyalty following the proposed Cabin Crew industrial strikes.

Friday, 4 December 2009


After much deliberation, the Surrogate has been choosen! To be honest the selection really is about going with your gut instinct.........as what you see on the paper bio may not be reality....or perhaps I'm better off saying that it would be nice to meet and see the surrogate before making a final decision.

I guess some may resemble the process similiar to Internet Dating!

Now that the Egg Donor and Surrogate have been choosen....the next step is for SI to coordinate a syncing cycle for both and a travel date to Mumbai for us.

Most likely this won't happen until January....

...........STAY TUNED

Thursday, 3 December 2009

Egg Donor Chosen!

Egg Donor selection was not that difficult.......we read through the bio's taking into account everything from age to the number of children they had and also the number of times they had been an egg donor...

It would be difficult to say that we overlooked the physical appearance of the donor...this was an important factor as well.

The good news is that we have locked down our egg donor!

It hasn't been easy in choosing the Surrogate as we had specific requirements for our Surrogate Mother. To be honest Surrogacy India has not provided a huge selection of surrogate choices and what they have provided only 2 fit our requirements. Slightly disappointed with this!!

We are really not prepared to take whoever is thrown at us as a Surrogate and we are hoping that a better selection of Surrogates become available in the next few days.

Fingers Crossed!

Tuesday, 1 December 2009


Of all the prospective parents conceiving through assisted reproduction, those in surrogacy arrangements often face the most difficult legal issues. The surrogate and usually also her husband will be treated as the child's legal parents at birth, leaving the commissioning parents with no legal connection with their child whatsoever, even where both are the biological parents.

There is a special remedy available called a parental order. This is an order made by the family courts which reassigns parenthood after surrogacy, extinguishing the responsibility of the surrogate parents and transferring it to the commissioning couple. The process takes place post-birth: the application must be made within the first six months of the child's life (though the surrogate's consent is ineffective until after the first six weeks) and typically takes many months to be processed by the courts. At present, only married couples can apply, but as from 6 April 2010, unmarried and same sex couples will also be eligible.

The Department of Health (DH) is currently consulting on new draft regulations which prescribe the detail of this court process, and which will replace existing regulations that have been in place since 1994. The consultation closes on 23 November.

What is in the draft regulations?

Like the existing regulations, the proposed revised regulations apply provisions of adoption law to the parental order application process, setting out court procedure and giving a surrogate child broadly the same legal status as an adopted child. Adoption law has itself been overhauled substantially in recent years, and this is reflected in the wording of the new regulations. However, as part of the general updating, there are some important revisions being made to the existing parental order system which need to be looked at carefully.

For example, a court considering whether to grant an adoption order now has to first consider the 'welfare checklist', a prescriptive list of considerations which includes ascertaining the child's wishes and feelings and considering his or her relationship with the birth family. The new parental order regulations incorporate this checklist into the parental order process. However, it does not seem appropriate for the court to have to address all these issues in surrogacy cases, given that the child will inevitably be less than six months old, and will be already living with the applicants (at least one of whom is his or her biological parent).

Importing the new adoption law without amendment fails to adequately take account of the special nature of surrogacy arrangements, and there may be a risk that this could make the process of applying for a parental order even more onerous than before. While a parental order is similar to an adoption order (in the sense that it transfers legal parenthood from one person to another), surrogacy is very different from adoption. Because a surrogate child (or at least those to which parental orders can apply) is biologically connected to at least one of the commissioning parents and is almost invariably in their care from birth, the dynamic of the family is perhaps closer to donor conception than to adoption. Adapting adoption law is therefore a difficult task, and one which we think could be handled more carefully by the regulations.

The parental order system

Even though a more fundamental review may not be within the power of these regulations, it seems impossible to look at any legislation relating to parental orders without making the point that the whole system is problematic. Parental orders were introduced as a late amendment to the Human Fertilisation and Embryology Act 1990 in response to a specific surrogacy case. At the time, surrogacy was viewed as very rare and something which occurred largely on the fringes of the law and ethical acceptability. The 1990 rules on legal parenthood clearly prioritised donor conception (making the carrying mother the legal mother, and her husband the legal father), and parental orders were designed as a limited remedy - a 'sticking plaster' - in respect of the awkward application of legal parenthood rules in surrogacy situations.

As all those working in this field know, things have changed radically since then. Surrogacy as a form of fertility treatment has blossomed, both in the UK and abroad, and no longer affects just a small number of altruistic inter-family arrangements. Indeed, the Human Fertilisation and Embryology Act 2008 itself has endorsed this, by legalising non-profit making surrogacy agencies like Surrogacy UK and COTS and extending the categories of couples eligible to apply for parental orders. We are also seeing growing numbers of fertility patients travelling abroad for surrogacy, which brings even more complex legal challenges.

The current system, which came about by historical accident rather than a concerted policy decision, fails to meet this increased demand, and is inadequate from almost every perspective. The surrogate and her husband (who, in the vast majority of cases do wish to surrender the child) remain legally and financially responsible for the child for up to a year after the birth, and may have no legal redress against intended parents who refuse to assume responsibility. The intended parents often have no status in respect of their child for many months, including no right to make decisions or to consent to immunisations, no right to transmit inheritance or citizenship rights automatically and the intending mother has no rights to maternity leave (though this is the subject of another current campaign), leaving children very vulnerable during the early months of their lives.

The system is not an effective guardian of public policy against commercial surrogacy, since the check on payments comes at the end the process (by which time any payments have already been made) and the only sanction available to the court is a refusal to grant an order, which is almost impossible to enforce since this would prejudice the welfare of a newborn child. And, most importantly of all, these problems mean that surrogate children lack even basic protection. The problems are highlighted most starkly in foreign surrogacy cases. For example, in the landmark case of Re X and Y (foreign surrogacy) [2008], the law left surrogate twins born abroad to a British couple stateless and parentless. Such children risk being abandoned to foreign state care in the absence of complex and expensive legal intervention - surely this is an outcome which the law has an obligation to avoid at all costs.

We need a better and more planned approach to surrogacy. Of course, there are difficult and sensitive issues to be handled in creating new law. Surrogacy arrangements are among the most ethically and humanly complex in assisted reproduction, with three or even four adults involved throughout the process of conception, pregnancy and birth, and possibly third party gamete donors as well. The respective interests, protection and independence from exploitation of all these adults and, most importantly, the resulting child, need to be adequately balanced and protected by the law.
It is disappointing that such issues were not properly addressed during the government's overhaul of assisted reproduction law last year. Although the Minister indicated that surrogacy was a sensitive issue which would be looked at separately, no firm commitment for this review, or a date, has yet been set - and it seems, given the current 'status' of surrogacy - odd to continue treating it separately. In order to ensure that our law can cope with the demands of modern surrogacy practice, and to ensure that vulnerable children are protected, we urge the government to take a fresh look, not only at the regulations, but at the law itself.

By Natalie Gamble and Louisa Ghevaert
Partners with specialist fertility law firm Gamble and Ghevaert LLP (www.gambleandghevaert.com)

Egg Donors & Surrogates

Ok, so this morning we received an e-mail from the SI team with a selection of egg donors and surrogates.....there was a bit of excitement because this part in the reality of surrogacy was in front of us.

It looks like the evening will be spent looking through pics and reading bios....Do we really know what we are looking for in an egg donor and surrogate mother?

Yes, we have our balanced scorecard ready for this life changing experience!

How long will it take us to make a decision....1 hour, 2 hours, 4 hours, 24 hours or 48 hours? We will not rush it; it's like baking a cake, you've got to make sure you've got all the right ingredients!